Quick response, will follow up next week. 

Informal coordination of work will help make it more pleasant and productive. Someone just needs to take the lead and set up some times, and stick with it until you gain some momentum.

Formalizing the system is still an idea on the table. My intention was to have a get together to discuss this spring, but Covid has hampered that. If there is enough interest to get a few people but not so much that it would be a crowd, we could try the lawn at the East Side Club or something similar.  Otherwise wait until gatherings are allowed again.

The chance of there being paid staff to do trail maintenance is virtually nil (we don’t get that at any trail systems).  Better organized volunteers, assurance that your work has some  permanence, general administrative help, some funding, and more wheels on the trails will be the main advantages of legitimizing the trails.

Thanks for the time you all are putting in!

augs: Perhaps when you respond with a follow up you could say what the pros and cons would be of making these trails official?
Since it looks like it is going to be volunteers who do the upkeep, such as it is for the CORP trails, I don't get it what the difference is between official vs non.
Does making them official mean that CORP would adopt and add them to all the other trails that are listed here?

If not or until then would CORP consider adding a "Other trails that are non-CORP" section to the website?
It was mentioned earlier that there are other hobo trails around.

Re: New Trailhead?

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corkr900
July 22, 2020, 11:03 AM

Interested in helping, you say... what needs to be done? I may be able to find some spare time if it means getting this project rolling again

Quick response, will follow up next week. 

Informal coordination of work will help make it more pleasant and productive. Someone just needs to take the lead and set up some times, and stick with it until you gain some momentum.

Formalizing the system is still an idea on the table. My intention was to have a get together to discuss this spring, but Covid has hampered that. If there is enough interest to get a few people but not so much that it would be a crowd, we could try the lawn at the East Side Club or something similar.  Otherwise wait until gatherings are allowed again.

The chance of there being paid staff to do trail maintenance is virtually nil (we don’t get that at any trail systems).  Better organized volunteers, assurance that your work has some  permanence, general administrative help, some funding, and more wheels on the trails will be the main advantages of legitimizing the trails.

Thanks for the time you all are putting in!

Nice!

A little update:
I've done some trimming of brush, weeds, and branches trailside as well as overhead branches over the last couple weeks.  It grows rather fast this time of year.  So far, I am keeping up using non-motorized tools.  The mosquitoes are out in full force, that's for sure.  Some people have added a berm and started a little jump line that is fun.  Still a rather unorganized collection of improvements, which, is kind of awesome in it's own way.

Let me know in replies if anyone wants to work more collaboratively on things, have ideas, etc.

Have fun riding!
Yes, I would like to coordinate and commit to a work day/time with you and anyone else who would be interested.

After getting my legs scratched up from the overgrowth of thorny Raz. Branches that extend over the newer sections I was motivated to cut those back and trim along some other parts of the trails on Mon. July 20th.
I also managed to move aside a huge branch that had fallen onto the trail blocking it.
After doing a test ride to see what the improvements were like I discovered that I did not trim back as much as I could have with some branches brushing against me as I went past and the socks getting full of burrs.  >:(
(To prevent scratches and burrs I figure I'll just wear my rubber boots when I ride these trails.) 
And no, I did not use power tools since I don't have any although it is tempting to get a weed trimmer for this project if it is just me.
I did what I could though I think a lot more could be trimmed from the trail edges.
I also discovered there is another trail that is currently overgrown. I may try and clear it next time I get up the gumption for working there.
There is also a tree branch that is blocking a thru trail for both bikers and hikers. I believe this one might be too big for a hand saw.
Since using a chainsaw may not be recommended for a volunteer perhaps someone could call Dane Cnty. Parks to remove it?

From the replies and other feedback on these trails it looks like folks are just volunteering on their own when they have the time and energy for it instead of making a formal plan to meet, which I would be open to.
I also gather that there is a reluctance of making these trails official.
It doesn't matter to me. I'm just sharing what I think I see and feel free to correct me on this.
Though frankly I would be interested in looking into making these official so that they can be maintained by paid staff or others than just us if that is what the consensus wants. 

Running along East to West in the Southern area is an old street which is deteriorating. 
Along the newer MTB trials are what looks like old cement foundations or maybe even basements and these cement blocks which the trail runs between in a few spots.
It must be the remains of a few houses that nature is reclaiming... 

Did the loop counterclockwise last weekend. Split up the ride over 2 days since it rained Saturday AM.
Thanks to whoever left a cooler full of cold drinks at The Farm! That trail magic totally motivated me to keep rolling, especially after climbing the hill to the trailhead. And  I was down to my last water bottle.
Thanks also to those of you who've been cutting weeds!


Spread the Word

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augs
July 19, 2020, 10:05 AM

Do you enjoy your local mountain bike trails?  You can help make them better by telling someone about them!  The representatives of the land managers we work with (parks directors, rangers, etc.) are well aware of the use the trails get and the impact they are making, but many times folks higher up the chain have no idea, and that's often where decisions about funding and access get made.  We get comments like, "Why should we invest in a niche sport?" or, "I've never seen anyone on those trails."  Send a quick note to your alder or council member, and let them know how much the trails mean to you and the broad and growing community of riders that use them.  Stay positive, and don't just tell them you like to shred; think about the benefits for the broader community: more people, especially kids, on bikes, outdoors, getting exercise; not having to drive so far or at all to reap these benefits.  Economics speaks loudly to many people; if you spend money where you ride, let them know.

This spring has really driven home how important our local trails are to so many people.  Help make sure that that is not our secret, and keep the good things coming.


Re: New Trailhead?

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imwjl
July 15, 2020, 10:55 PM

Thank you for your interest. There's another delay via the Town Of Middleton board but we keep at things and welcome anyone interested in helping.

Yes, "tailgating" is not nice and certainly passing in a way that ditches someone is also not appropriate. I am also new to mtb from road biking but have not experienced this problem. As others have also suggested, the best solution is likely to get a little more proactive. My viewpoint when on the trail is that a faster rider behind me shouldn't need to ask to pass me; if I hear them approaching I get over at the first safe spot, which on many of the beginner trails is basically anywhere. If I can't, I shout back and let them know that I am aware of them and will get over when I can. Mistakes happen of course, like when riding at speed through a rock garden you may well not hear the cassette of the rider behind you approaching.  Most of the time this isn't a problem; you'll hear their cassette spinning, changing gears, etc. It is possible that as a totally new rider like your girlfriend that there may just be "too much happening" to stay on top of the sounds behind you when whats in front of you is obviously the more pressing issue for your health! That being said, you riding behind and providing comms between the approaching rider and your partner is probably a decent way to go. Just shout up to her that she needs to get over when able.
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